In this episode, I talk with an old running buddy, Dr. Justin Herbert. "Herb" and I grew up not too far from each other, and ended up on the same Junior Olympic cross country team, and University cross country and track team. He is currently a collegiate cross country and track and field coach at Oral Roberts University. We discuss his PhD dissertation on student-athlete leadership development, how to keep things simple to run faster, and the life-long impact of good coaching.

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